[SATLUG] Man arrested for copying CD's
astro at astr0.org
Tue Jan 1 19:57:28 CST 2008
I dont use ubuntu
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On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:51 PM, "John Chalinder" <argiod at bresnan.net> wrote:
> Well, that may be true about the tin foil hat. But, before you call
> me paranoid, tell me again why you are using Ubuntu instead of
> Microslop? Also, consider the following:
> I see a lot of talk here regarding back doors in MS's OS. And, while
> I don't think it's economically feasible to keep track of every
> computer in the country/world, it still would not surprise me to
> find out that somebody has figured out a way to hook up enough Cray
> supercomputers with the software to do so. And the exorbitant cost
> is not an issue; it would simply be taken from black ops money, and
> none would be the wiser.
> I remember a few years ago hearing about the Echelon program that
> listened to international (and post 9/11, domestic) phone calls and
> at detecting certain 'key words' would record the conversation for
> later analysis by the NSA. So, yes, I'll keep that tin foil hat, and
> my survival gear handy.
> You may recognize this quote from the Lutheran anti-Nazi activist,
> who formed a resistance movement and was then arrested and spent
> years in prison for his beliefs:
> “First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out becaus
> e I was not a socialist.
> "Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
> because I was not a trade unionist.
> "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was
> not a Jew. "Then they came for me, and there was no one left to
> speak for me.”
> I've found an updated paraphrase of this:
> They came for the Muslims, and I Didn't Speak Up
> January 4, 2003.
> By Stephen Rohde
> Forum Column (from the Daily Journal)
> (Author's Note: The USA Patriot Act became law a little over one
> year ago.)
> (Editor's Note: This New Year let us remember freedom in America as
> it was and think about what the loss of that freedom means to us
> all. We, each and everyone of us, have a duty to America to speak up
> whenever and where ever our Freedom is taken or diminished.)
> "First they came for the Muslims, and I didn't speak up because I
> wasn't a Muslim.
> "Then they came for the immigrants, detaining them indefinitely
> solely on the certification of the attorney general, and I didn't
> speak up because I wasn't an immigrant.
> "Then they came to eavesdrop on suspects consulting with their
> attorneys, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a suspect.
> "Then they came to prosecute non citizens before secret military
> commissions, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a non-citizen
> "Then they came to enter homes and offices for unannounced, sneak
> and peak searches, and I didn't speak up because I had nothing to
> "Then they came to reinstate Cointelpro and resume the infiltration
> and surveillance of domestic religious and political groups, and I
> didn't speak up because I no longer participated in any groups.
> "Then they came to arrest American citizens and hold them
> indefinitely without any charges and without access to lawyers, and
> I didn't speak up because I would never be arrested.
> "Then they came to institute TIPS Terrorism Information and
> Prevention System recruiting citizens to spy on other citizens and I
> didn't speak up because I was afraid.
> "Then they came for anyone who objected to government policy because
> it only aided the terrorists and gave ammunition to America's
> enemies, and I didn't speak up because I didn't speak up.
> "Then they came for me, and by that time, no one was left to speak
> So, where is the line between paranoia and valid concern?
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:31:16 -0600
> Brian Lewis <astro at astr0.org> wrote:
>> I think someone needs to put their tin foil hat back on.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jan 1, 2008, at 6:19 PM, "John Chalinder" <argiod at bresnan.net>
>>> I would not be the least surprised if some three letter agency
>>> had backdoors into ALL computer systems, regardless of the OS.
>>> But, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.... Wait!
>>> Who are those men in expensive gray suits and shiny black shoes
>>> doing at my door?!!! Oh No!!! They're coming to take me
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