[SATLUG] AT&T $10.00 DSL Ordering - Easiest Way
M K Ramadoss
mkr777 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 25 21:56:42 CDT 2007
The standalone DSL that is to be provided in the coming months is the result
of FCC requirement for approving the merger of AT&T and Bellsouth. So in the
months to come, it is going to be a reality.
Many, these days just have a cell phone. If AT&T can milk the line they
already have to your home, this is the way to do it.
On 6/25/07, John C <satlugacct at jchampion.com> wrote:
> toddwbucy wrote:
> > I understand all of that and in fact sympathize with the cost of
> > and building the infrastructure that makes our high tech lifestyle
> > My beef though is not with the cost but with the deceptive nature of the
> > pricing. If the Phone company is going to offer DSL service at $10 a
> > then it should not require that I pay an additional $24 a month for a
> > line as well. The fact that they require that I pay for the land line
> > suggests to me that their DSL pricing does not represent the true cost
> > having DSL. Instead, their pricing seems to reflect a deceptive
> > ploy which is aimed at maintaining their traditional customer base of
> > line phone service.
> > Todd
> > On Monday 25 June 2007 10:58:39 Don Wright wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:44:37 -0500, toddwbucy <toddwbucy at grandecom.net>
> > wrote:
> >>> I think the point is that the lines have already been laid. If one
> >>> wants DSL and not a phone then why can't at&t offer just the DSL
> >>> the phone. Instead if one wants DSL they are offered a bait and switch
> >>> sorts. It does seem a little dishonest to say that they are offering
> >>> $10 DSL service but only if you pay $24 for the phone as well.
> >>> Todd
> >> OK, let's look at the costs involved in delivering DSL. There's the
> >> bandwidth charged by the upstream provider, the local equipment (which
> >> doesn't last forever), the actual copper lines (likewise), and
> >> expenses (the trucks and people) to keep it all operating, plus cash
> >> reserves to build out service for future clients.
> >> Most of these items are already bundled into the price of the POTS
> >> which as a regulated monopoly is built into the business plan of the
> >> telco. Dry copper pairs, with or without DSL, are not the usual case
> >> thus more expensive to supply. Therefore the cost of DSL without
> >> tone is almost the same as DSL with dial tone, and therefore not a
> >> desirable service to offer.
> >> I hate to be devil's advocate, but in this case there really isn't
> >> than a tiny amount of evil in this situation. --Don
> >>  Sarcasm tags implied.
> >>  Economies of scale, extra costs of handling exceptions.
> >>  for this particular Great Satan, at least.
> >> --
> >> Migraine: All the fun of a hangover without the bother of
> >> getting drunk.
> Hi all,
> Let me see if I can explain it from my slanted and heavily biased
> against ATT point of view. Ma Bell is losing subscribers. In order to
> boost those numbers and keep them inflated, they have to do something.
> So instead of allowing you to use the twisted pair that is probably
> already running to your house for a landline you're not using, and use
> that for DSL and DSL only, they want you to sign a contract and agree to
> certain conditions in order to get $10 dsl provided that you live within
> the appropriate distance to their CO, if you have their phone service
> (and I wouldn't be surprised if they added a stipulation that you must
> have their $49.95 all distance service).
> Let me also mention that at the beginning of the year I signed up for
> ATT's everything package. Biggest mistake that I ever
> made...well...there have been a couple of other big 'uns but this was a
> mistake. For starters, I was paying for, and locked into a contract for
> 1.5Mbps downstream speed and what I got was barely over 1.0 Mbps.
> I also signed up for one year of free Dish Basic service or 34.99 off my
> bill. Their people told me that my monthly bill for phone, Dish, DSL
> would be between $115 and $120/ mo. Ha!...I never got a bill less than
> $200. I had an attorney friend call them and get me out of it without
> paying any termination charges for misleading me.
> If you ask me, they all stink and good luck getting a $10 DSL line if
> you don't have a landline with ATT currently. They just are not going to
> let you do it and there ain't thing one that you can do about it.
> I apologize to the masses but that horrific experience and being lied to
> by a company that hides their customer service phone number on their
> website and hides the number and address to their executive offices is
> indicative of how they operate. They are becoming more like AOL in their
> lack of customer support. ***DISCLAIMER*** just an opinion of an angry
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