[SATLUG] Winblows refund / MICROSOFT THEFT!!!
J at JVPappas.net
Tue Jul 12 14:20:29 CDT 2005
I feel your pain.
Here is a Linux Journal story on this topic:
The other option is to buy from an OEM that does not have an MS
Or see Bob's email pointing to http://mcelrath.org/laptops.html.
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 11:39 -0500, Chuck wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I've been in the market for a new laptop for a while now. My current
> one just takes too long to boot up and since I do start X most of the
> time (for Evolution & multiple command windows) -- I'm tired of waiting
> on it. Its been a great machine, but a P2-333 is just too slow.
> I've been looking at the machines available and their features. And I
> pretty much settled on a HP machine I thought has the features I
> wanted. I was not very concerned that HP doesn't have much information
> on running Linux on their laptops -- that's kinda the norm with most
> companies. But I have run into something of a brick wall on one topic
> -- paying them and Micro$shit for software I don't want and will never
> I've spoken to HP all the way up to the corporate office in California.
> One guy at their "Small Business" customer desk told me "HP has an
> agreement with MS that we will not sell a computer without an OS on it"
> and "since we only sell the Windows OS -- that kinda locks you into
> Winblows". He also told me that they will NOT refund the Windows
> software, even though the customer doesn't agree to the MS EULA and
> wipes the drive without ever booting to the installed OS.
> I've spoken to the corporate office and a guy there named Steve was very
> understanding when I explained the situation. He also thought it odd
> that they would not refund the OS to me if I don't want it and will
> never use it. He agreed last week to look into it further and get back
> to me. I spoke to him again a few minutes ago and its not looking
> good. He seems to be running into the same brick wall.
> I was wondering if anyone else had tried this recently or run into this
> same problem. I ***WILL NOT*** pay some company money to pass to MS for
> an operating system I'll never use. And even if I did want to install a
> Winblows version under VMWare (very likely) -- I own more MS licenses
> than most computer repair shops. So, why should I give my hard earned
> money to Bill for another?
> Lets get this subject started and brought out in the light! Its a RIP
> I'm also trying to reload a friend's Compaq machine right now. Since it
> was Win98, HP/Compaq won't sell me a replacement "RESTORE CD" -- they
> tell me to buy a newer version of Winblows. I tell them there is no
> need -- this guy still has the original registration paperwork and the
> MS COA sticker is still on the machine. But they want him to fork out
> for a new copy of Winblows even though this one is perfectly good.
> UNBELIEVABLE! What a racket!!!
> So, I guess the end question is -- has anyone ever been able to get a
> refund for their unused Winblows software? If so, what company? I'll
> gladly take my $$$ and very publicly support that company with my
> business. Or has anyone successfully talked a company into selling them
> a machine without an OS? Hell -- I just build my own computers, but you
> can't do that with a laptop!!!
> Thanks guys & gals.
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