[SATLUG] RR- Very Interesting - RR Network Change

[Chuck]

I have to challenge you on a couple of points.

I shutdown my firewall to move some furniture around a couple weeks ago and
got my first new RR IP in about a year.  The previous one had gone through
the July floods with no outages and no changes.  And I'd had it since about
9-11 last year.

My IPs have always been class-A in the 24 net, although the second octet has
changed a couple times.  As for a shortage of IPs forcing them to hope all
their customers don't come on at the same time -- don't bet on it.  I read
an article a while back which debunks the myth of IP address shortage (at
least here in the US).  You just have to know where to go to get more and be
able to justify it.

As for the bandwidth, RR does have the equipment and ability to cap/control
the bandwidth.  Just because they aren't doing it doesn't mean they can't.
And coincidentally, I heard back in the spring that they were considering
bandwidth limiting.  But nothing since then?!?

And since SWBT technicians/people STILL seem to be clueless about DSL, I'll
stick with RR.  (I recently overheard two technicians arguing about whether
you could hear the DSL signal on the line with a buttset!)

Chuck


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From: satlug-admin at satlug.org [mailto:satlug-admin at satlug.org]On Behalf
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:42 PM
To: satlug at satlug.org
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] RR- Very Interesting - RR Network Change


Actually, the major providers had been obtaining huge blocks of IP numbers
and were sandbagging them, and when outfits like RR needed more IP numbers,
a rule was passed that providers had to give up blocks of unused numbers.
As a result the available blocks for providers like earthlink and RR are all
over the place.  A few here and a few there.  It must be a nightmare to be
reprogramming the router tables for each router as the system continues to
expand.  By having no redundancy, RR must keep moving them around.  I doubt
they have more IP numbers than they have connections, and this is the reason
they keep reassigning them as your "lease" expires. They have to be betting
on a percentages of customers will not be connected at all at any given
moment, whereas, SwBell assigns you your IPs and leaves them there.  Bell
even allows you to run servers, and to even resell the service because they
can control (call it cap) your bandwidth, whereas, RR seems to not have that
much control.  You can see that when sometimes you have as high as 2+ MBS
download speeds and at others less than 1.  On the other hand, Bell is
generally consistent, except when their voice circuits get overloaded, and
they will then automatically start dropping data connections.
Both Bell and TW have to have extra employees just to configure their
routers to handling the competing providers in order to get service to you.
In my case, since I desired Static IP numbers (25) I moved from RR back to
SwBell and haven't really encountered problems, like the huge outage that RR
had early in July during all the flooding.  My next step is HDSL (same speed
both ways) which is equivalent to T-1 service, and is only available from
Bell, and cheaper than RR Business class.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Red Lloyd" <RedOregon at satx.rr.com>
To: <satlug at satlug.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] RR- Very Interesting - RR Network Change


> Actually, when I first got RR, I always had a 24.162 (I think) address...
then
> one day I had a 66.whatever.  Talked to a guy at RR (informally), and he
said
> at one point the 24s were San Antonio's and the 66s were Austin, but now
> they're pretty much pooled.
>
> > Walt DuBose wrote:
> >
> > >Yesterday when I shut down my computer I had RR IP address
66.69.87.213.
> > >Now I have a RR IP address of 24.167.120.165 and of course new gateway
> >
> > Bruce wrote:
> >  I understand you can get one with Earthlink.
> > Sounds like they did a major change of IPs in their dhcp server.
> >   -- Bruce
> >
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